Sunday, December 2, 2007
Forster, A Passage to India
While reading the section on the “Caves” we came up with some interesting ideas and questions for you to think about:
Aziz does love Mrs. Moore but not so much Adela "He had never liked Miss Quested as much as Mrs. Moore, and had little to say to her, less that ever now that she would marry a British official."(167)
This sets a mood of conflict between them and shows Aziz' feelings of restraint due to the her engagement-uncomfortable with the British official that has power over him
“She was perfect, as always, his dear Mrs. Moore . . . There was nothing he would not do for her. He would die to make her happy.” (145)
“Yes, I am your friend” Mrs. Moore to Aziz (164)
Although he does not like Adela as much as Mrs. Moore, Aziz still says:
“These two had strange effects on him- they were his friend, his for ever, and he theirs forever…” (157)
Evidence of innocence?
"Life went on as usual, but had no consequences, that is to say, sounds did not echo or thoughts develop." (155)
I think this is a really important quote that describes the echo. It’s almost as if the echo represents trouble and the future arrest of Aziz. Maybe that's why the echo made Mrs. Moore uncomfortable? That's a bit of a stretch but still can show the impending trouble- "echoes generate echoes" (163)
Mrs. Moore “didn’t know who touched her, couldn’t breathe, and some vile naked thing struck her face and settled on her mouth like a pad . . . For an instant she went mad, hitting and gasping like a fanatic.
For not only did the crush and stench alarm her; there was a also a terrifying echo” (162)
“There are some exquisite echoes in India . . . The echo in a Marabar cave is not like these, it is entirely devoid of distinction. Whatever is said, the same monotonous noise replies . . .” (163)
“The crush and the smells she could forget, but the echo began in some indescribable way to undermine her hold on life” (165)
After Mrs. Moore leaves the cave she is looking for a villain. Foreshadowing of the incident with Adela?
Aziz admires Babur but thinks Akbar is foolish because...
"You keep your religion, I mine. That is the best. Nothing embraces the whole of India, nothing, nothing..."(160)
Not even British culture?
Adela counters with "...I hope you're not right. There will have to be something universal in this country- I don't say religion, for I am not religious, but something, or how else are barriers to be broken down?"(160)
This question seems to show how E.M. Forster is wondering how any humans can connect. Especially in India where there are so many barriers. They then go into a conversation about Adela's impending Anglo-Indian point of view which will further separate her from any sort of universal brotherhood
Aziz says he feels like the Emperor Babur, and later says “But Babur- never in his whole life did he betray a friend” (159)
Foreshadowing his innocence?
And then in regards to the problem with Aziz:
“He was inaccurate because he desired to honor her and- facts being entangled- he had to arrange them in her vicinity, as one tidies the ground after extracting a weed. Before breakfast was over, he had told
a good many lies” (175) Aziz
Aziz is digging himself into a hole
"When an Indian goes bad he goes not only bad, but very queer."
They keep referring to Aziz in generic terms making them seem to represent the larger conflict between the British and English. Fielding plays an important mediator role between the two races, often siding with Aziz. Interesting? Why is this significant?
“When evil occurs, it expresses the whole of the universe. Similarly when good occurs” (197)
What did you think of this passage? I thought it was very interesting- saying they were all responsible- he did it, and so did everyone else.
Posted by Jared at 6:27 PM